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Beyond Pronatalism Podcast - Selected Testimonials

In a world that screams at you to procreate, being a wallflower can feel daunting. The Beyond Pronatalism podcast is a solace for those wallflowers who have chosen different paths for themselves - who wish to rewrite stories that don’t fit into prescribed “boxes”, and who dare to be boldly and unapologetically authentic in an environment that often coerces us into complicity with patterns of self-sabotage. Beyond Pronatalism is a community that shares its joys, grief, and struggles; one that offers a sense of familiarity and helps ease the isolating feeling of being ‘alone’ in this world. Each story holds the potential to resonate with someone listening in. I hope you find a semblance of hope and light through this one-of-a-kind, truly need-of-the-hour podcast.

- Sneha, 32, India

As someone who grew up being told I was wrong for choosing an unconventional path, this podcast is a revelation. One of my favorite things about humans is our fondness for storytelling and the subsequent recognition of ourselves in the stories of other people - it’s one of the most validating and effective ways to make progress on social issues. Professional development hours (and human development hours) should include story time with people we think are different from ourselves. There isn’t a single person on earth who could listen to Beyond Pronatalism without hearing something they have felt, thought, or experienced. These stories are universal truths and powerful tools for change. I think it is essential listening for anyone hoping to be a wise and intentional person.

- Laura, 33, USA

When I listen to an episode of Beyond Pronatalism, the starched constraints of the dominant narrative are left behind and I enter a world so vibrantly alive with authenticity. It can be hard to become something without seeing a glimpse of it first externally. Personal stories allow us to empathize with a wide variety of experiences and discover new ways of being. This show makes me truly happy to be alive in a time of nuanced inner truth-telling!

- Sarah, 39, USA


OVERSHOOT | Shrink Toward Abundance - Selected Testimonials

Understanding the human predicament is a challenge. Issues like overpopulation and anthropogenic instability can leave me feeling anxious and frustrated. OVERSHOOT is an oasis of sensemaking, where progressive thinkers offer pathways to a better future through reproductive autonomy, social justice and reverence for the more than human world. Nandita and Alan guide each conversation with such care and insight, it's a pleasure to listen. I’m so grateful for this resource!

- Marina Raike, Canada

An enormous, giant, thank you for the incredible resource that OVERSHOOT is. I have learned so much from the podcast, and been able to have so many better informed conversations with others because of it. Y'all are doing such important, difficult work so well! Some extra love for the episodes on IVF, Nuclear Energy, and Modern Slavery - they were the most thorough and fearless coverages of these topics I have encountered. Y'all rock my socks.

- Syd, USA

I just stumbled upon your podcast and let out a sigh of relief that I'm sure was audible, city-wide, over the din of traffic, leaf blowers and sirens. You are my people, and while I don't know you, I feel I do given how actively I participate in all your interviews - talking to my radio, yelling in agreement, and feeling real hope - knowing there's a community of people out there who share my deeply held beliefs and worldviews. Thank you for your incredible work.

- Tonya Stanislawska, Canada

OVERSHOOT is amongst the most intelligent, scientific, and comprehensive examinations of our global ecological and humanitarian realities and responsibilities. Every guest is well chosen and the hosts’ in-depth knowledge lead to critical questions and commentary to bring out their key ideas. The podcast should be the basis of curriculum at all learning institutions to create an ecological and justice basis for understanding and decision making in this rapidly degrading world.

- Tushar Mehta, Canada

I'm a big environmentalist and have been thinking about the best way to help save our planet for future life. No matter how much humans reduce, reuse and recycle it isn't going to matter if our population keeps exponentially growing. You educate listeners across the globe to not only the benefits of shrinking towards abundance, but just as importantly, you and your guests give the tools to begin this transition. Nothing is more important to Earth's future than your podcast.

- Frank Pitts, USA

Just listened to the Émile Torres podcast. It provided insight and nuance on the bat-shit-craziness of the megalomaniacs. Great Job. Your ‘thick’ questions are an important reason why I love your podcast. You have done your homework and get the guests to talk to the interesting stuff.

- Paul Sutton, USA

Loved the conversation with Isabel Fassbender. It is important to have such nuanced discussions on the topic of population and fertility rates. I come from India where I observe two extremes. In areas where women who don't have agency to make their own reproductive decisions, the fertility rates are still very high. On the other hand, women who have agency and financial independence put off marriage and childbearing longer than ever before because marriage is still a very patriarchal institution in India. And it is still a taboo to have children outside of marriage. What we are seeing in countries like S. Korea and now in China is that when the societal values are still very patriarchal, marriage is a losing game for women. While naturally declining birth rates are not a bad thing in an overpopulated world, alienation between men and women is also not the best way for that to happen. Meanwhile, the public discourse (even in India) is moving towards population collapse panic which feels bizarre in a world headed towards 10 billion in a few decades. We need more platforms like your podcast having more authentic and sincere conversations about population growth.

- Ankita, India

I'm the director of a nonprofit that works for animal rights, I'm a vegan, childfree, minimalist, zero waste, bicycle user, non-flying person, etc. I truly believe that personal change is important and that it drives bigger changes in society. I love the podcast and I thank you all for creating this space where we can learn and discuss the overpopulation issue. It's nice to "know" people that are not afraid to speak about such a delicate and urgent subject with respect and dedication.

- Juliana Barberi, Colombia

Thank you to your team for all the great work that you do. It is so hard to break through the endless media mantra that ‘growth is good’, and ‘a shrinking population constitutes a disaster’. Your ‘Shrink toward abundance’ line is perfect - people usually have a negative connotation of ‘shrink’, but paired with abundance (which I think of as an abundance of joy, health, comfort, ecological diversity, space, etc.) is positive, and it really causes me to stop and think. Your podcast episodes are phenomenal - you speak with such incredible people. Thank you for your absolutely critical work!

- Cathy, USA

I felt grateful for your discussion with Dr. Donath about the negative experiences of some mothers/parents in relation to having children. I was one of those people who, while I loved my baby, didn’t love motherhood. I felt like my life had ended. People would gush, “Don’t you love being a mother?” and I would respond “No. I love my son, but I don’t really love being a mother.” The sleepless nights and boring days and diaper changing and cracked, painful nipples and mastitis, and loss of my previous life were so hard for me, but this was so taboo to admit. I felt like saying these things out loud made me a pariah or a freak. I was so resentful of all the things we aren’t told!

- Anonymous, New England, USA

Thank you for your interview with Bill Ryerson: Soap Operas for Social Justice. I have generally had a contemptuous attitude to soap operas (and the viewers). Most soap operas are superficial, promote ostentatious and consumerist lifestyles, and have a negative effect on society. But Bill’s strategy of turning them to good use has given me a new perspective regarding the potential good in this market. His strategy seems to have had enormous effect, and he is targeting and influencing people who otherwise would not be interested in or even resistant to topics such as family planning. Thanks again for your good work.

- Dennis Fajans, South Africa

Thanks so much for your excellent interview with Carl Safina! I was so impressed with it that I listened to it twice. Carl Safina’s message — that other species have their own unique cultures, and their own highly-evolved systems of communication and cooperation — needs to be heard and understood much more broadly. Perhaps if it were, we humans would repent of our foolish arrogance in relentlessly terrorizing and exterminating the myriad beautiful creatures with whom we share the planet. Thank you for your good work in sharing Carl Safina’s message, and thereby endorsing a more sane and responsible way of life for us humans.

- Charles Hathaway, USA

I deeply enjoyed listening to your interview with Dr. Amrita Nandy. Recently my wife had her tubes removed (salpingectomy) for a number of reasons, chief of which was we didn't want a kid and she wanted a permanent solution to her reproductive capacities.

I organised for her a "not-a-baby shower" to celebrate this moment in our lives. We had friends over to shower her in gifts and perform a host of rituals from washing her feet, feeding her spoonfuls of her favourite foods, to hosting a quiz themed on her life + fun uterus/reproductive facts.

For everyone who showed up - it was the first party of it's kind that they had attended, because these parties just don't exist yet. But I think awareness is growing, and I'm grateful to people like yourself for spreading the word.

I'm also grateful that we live in a part of the world that enables such decisions, though truth be told - doctors were reluctant at first citing her age (36) as a factor. But nonetheless, the medical world did help her take control of her reproductive choices. And we also are surrounded by those who not just accept, but support and encourage these choices. Not everyone is as privileged.

- Akash, Switzerland

I'm a 17 year old student and I'm currently studying geography in school. I recently came across your podcast and really love how I get to relate what I learn in the classroom to the discussions you guys are having.

- Emma, Singapore

I recently found your podcast series and have found it both very enlightening and comforting to know there is a network of educated and concerned people across the globe tackling the ‘pregnant elephant in the room’ topic of overpopulation. Your interviews and guests have had me rushing for a notepad and nodding my head while listening so many times. It’s been a delight discovering your collection, and hearing the discussions so articulately expressing topics I have, on more than one occasion, disrupted dinner parties with in my own clumsy explanations. Thank you for sharing this important work.

-Jackson Ellis, Australia

Your podcast interview on vasectomies is terrific, a masterful work of messaging about a significant topic that deserves wide recognition. Dr. Esgar Guarín is a passionate, holistically-oriented doctor providing a much-needed medical procedure, one that offers positive benefits for men, their partners, and the planet. His enthusiasm for his work is inspiring, as evidenced in his philosophical goals, eloquent vocal expressions, personal stories and experiences. He is indeed a dynamic personality.

- Clif and Bettye Ware, USA

Your podcast has truly opened my eyes (and ears) to pronatalism & parenthood, and had a profound impact on my life. Big thanks from across the pond. I think I have binged on your pronatalism panel and the Therese Shechter interview about 5 times each so thanks for offering such a great platform for discussion! The societal pressure to procreate was a bit of an issue for me and I was struggling to navigate these feelings until I found the podcast. With the shocking news from the US these past couple of days it seems like there is a fair way to go, but hopefully this can become a catalyst for change and growing awareness of Population Balance.

- Jack, England

I cannot say BRAVO enough times for all the informative podcasts Population Balance has and is producing!! I forward your name and podcasts to people constantly. I am a marine biologist and know that the only answer to help save us and every other species on the planet is to face the overpopulation crisis. Of course, we need to still focus on all the other "green things" we are doing but those will never be enough and nothing is sustainable unless our human numbers are. Your podcasts give us solid information to educate others on this critical topic.

- Stefanie Hawks-Johnson, USA

You have nailed it. The podcast on Pronatalism was brilliant and it is clear to me now that you and all the other women on the panel are the future. You are going to have more positive impact with your work than any politicians in the country. I was so disappointed with the leaders debate on climate change, but I feel hopeful with you and the work you are doing will have more impact on climate change than any of the political parties. You have found the image I was looking for. Thanks for your work and caring for humanity.

- Kae Shummoogum, Canada

I became vegan 3 years ago and now work at a leading vegan charity as a campaigner - as close to being a "professional vegan" as you can be. Increasingly, however, I started to feel that I had stopped challenging my own behaviors, so while out running I started to listen to podcasts on things that would butt up against my own preconceptions on different topics. I stumbled across the OVERSHOOT podcast and binge-listened to numerous episodes. 

Previously, I'd believed that overpopulation wasn't a problem yet so long as we transitioned to a land-use-efficient plant-based diet, and that it was a step too far to recommend smaller families to people across the world - especially the developing world who, I thought, had to experience population growth for economic growth. 

So much of what I heard in the Population Balance podcast challenged everything I thought that I believed about population - but I was immediately struck by how rational, kind, empathetic and evidence-based it was. I had written on my personal blog a bit about population before and how (I thought) a plant-based diet would mitigate the problem. I have since rewritten that very blog and backpedaled a number of my own fallacies. So, thanks Population Balance! You're still my favorite podcast to listen to while out running. Keep it up.

- Rory Cockshaw, UK

I wanted to congratulate you on your OVERSHOOT podcast. The interviews are so educational and enlightening. There is currently a resurgence amongst people on Tik Tok towards pronatalism. Mostly fighting against a decrease in population because they think its racist and eco-fascist. I love how you explain these issues and I really think it would benefit so many people if you spread your message on Tik Tok. It's a place where a lot of young people are molding their worldviews and opinions.

- Juliana, USA

No other podcast does such a fine job of looking unflinchingly but thoughtfully at both the challenges of and solutions to the world’s overpopulation problem. Podcasters and interviewers Nandita Bajaj and Alan Ware are extremely knowledgeable, and are well-prepared for each discussion. Their podcast guests provide the listener with a remarkable range of perspectives and expertise on the topic. The OVERSHOOT Podcast should be at the top of the listening list for anyone interested in halting the ongoing global ecological disaster, and in finding a path to true sustainability.

- Amazon Review, USA

Fantastic episode on vasectomies ! So inspiring! Thank you for airing this segment! Dr. Guarin is such an effective and compassionate communicator. This was always a deep passion of mine as an Ob/Gyn years ago - it was SO FRUSTRATING to see women have to undergo surgeries for tubal ligation (with all the risks and expense that entailed), while their male partners had the opportunity to step forward and have a 15-minute procedure that is nearly risk-free by comparison...yet so many men simply would not do it. Times are changing in many ways. Now is the time to make vasectomies as accessible as possible to men everywhere, and let's celebrate that opportunity and that choice!

- Gina Gangiola, USA

I would like to thank you so much for your recent podcast episode on sex education! Your guests shared very good insights on the relationship between overpopulation and wildlife conservation. I have also gained more knowledge about the childfree life from them as well. In fact, I am seriously considering a vasectomy because I want to promote my advocacy for overshoot awareness and reproductive rights. It’s my way to “Be the Change you want to see in the world" so to speak.

- Brix Reyes, The Philippines

Eileen Crist’s thought-leadership around population, ecocentrism, and global rewilding always impresses me, but this particular interview is absolutely breathtaking in places. I wish the whole world had 60 minutes to listen to her philosophical command of the issues at hand, her adroit language skills, and her ability to frame solving the human predicament as a series of ethical choices to be made, based on considerations of all life on Earth… not just human self-interest.

- Joe Bish, USA

I've listened to your Pronatalism podcast three times because it's so refreshing to hear people expressing these views. A Pronatalism grad course sounds fascinating--ground breaking, even. Teaching fish about water. You covered a few issues dear to me. Instead of wasting time denying that we're advocating involuntary methods, you went right to the fact that we have involuntary population control already. You put to rest the false dichotomy that exists more in people's minds than in reality. Also, the birth dearth warnings that the beneficiaries of population growth constantly warn about.

- Les, USA

Great interview with Dr. Kimya Dennis It's such a relief to find a strong and refreshing conversation about race, culture, history and personal choices. I found myself talking back (almost always in emphatic agreement!) to you all. Having lived much of the past 40 years in post-apartheid societies as a White American woman, I completely appreciate the great combination of nuance and bluntness, and of currentness and deep history, in this conversation.

- Phoebe Barnard, USA

This podcast brings together topics like climate change, social justice, animal welfare, and population studies in a fun and educative way. You’ll both laugh and learn as you listen to discussions with a vast array of all-stars in so many themes. The population is fantastic for learning about overpopulation, of course, but also delves deep into so many other themes, events and issues. I’ve really enjoyed the episodes from the start - and the Paul Ehrlich one was great, along with Eileen Crist, if you are just starting. Perfect for driving or walking!

- Lukas Eddy, USA

This podcast is an excellent source of well thought out discussion around the issues of overshoot. After reading "Countdown" by Alan Weisman, I became fascinated with this topic. This is the best and most professional podcast you'll find on the subject!

- Tim, USA

Love Love Loved your show with Bill Ryerson. He is an amazing man and it was great learning about the history of the Sabido Method and how Population Media Center is so successfully applying it all around the world. Keep up the great work!

- Alexandra Paul, USA

I send my most hearty congratulations and support for your excellent work in promoting awareness of the impact of rapidly advancing population on the environment and human well being. For many years, I have believed that the world’s increasing population, which has quadrupled in my lifetime, is an issue about which little is ever said. I am a retired college professor of education and teacher of many grade levels and I thank you for your exceptional work.

- Karen, USA

The Population Balance team do an excellent job of finding interesting interviewees, each with a different story to tell, on the subject of overpopulation. Such an important issue, this podcast helps to spread the word in a calm, thoughtful way. Standout recent episodes include Phoebe Barnard and Mechai Viravaidya.

- Jeremy Bell, USA

I love your work. I just listened to the online conference of women pushing back on pro-natalism. It was very sensible and sensitive - so inspiring, too. I also just listened to you on Michael's Post Growth Australia podcast. Well done and thank you for visiting Australia virtually.

- Simon Cole, Australia

This podcast is so well put together and so informative, I only wish it reached more people. I am supportive of a declining population and believe that the population must halve in order to save humanity (we have just passed 8 billion people), not grow. After listening to this podcast, I now have more tools in my toolbox, more data, and a better understanding of how crucial this topic is. Listening to this podcast has reassured my decision to live a child-free life for all the selfless reasons. I am even further inspired to continue my education in population studies, which am currently looking at Ph.D. programs where I hope to become a contributing members in the small community of those who favor population decline. This podcast has been inspiring, motivating, and above all, educational. Thank you for all the amazing work you have done! I highly recommend this podcast.

- Amazon Review, USA

Each podcast is such a revelation in less is more. The underlying cause of most of the world's serious problems i.e. lack of opportunity, poverty, violence, pollution, and depletion of natural resources find their roots in overpopulation.

- Joanna, USA